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he hasn't differentiated from george bush's. and his plans lack specifics. in a one-on-one debate, candidates have a lot of control over how aggressive they are. both romney and the president are inexperienced in a one-on-one debate format. few details on the format. the president and romney will be at podiums, standing, not sitting, and there will be no basic time limits on their answers. it's not 90 seconds, buzzer, things like that. it's up to the discretion of the moderator, jim leierer. that's going to be up to him. but there's supposed to be a lot of leeway here over how long the conversations go. the debate is on domestic policy. 90 minutes is supposed to be devoted to the economy specifically with governing and health care. but we'll see if the general nature of those areas allows libya to come up, which we know the romney folks want to do. debates are as much about style as substance and this is a reality show where obama and romney will meet in the first time in nearly five years before their biggest audience of the campaign. the first 2008 preside
he hasn't differentiated from george bush's. and his plans lack specifics. in a one-on-one debate, candidates have a lot of control over how aggressive they are. both romney and the president are inexperienced in a one-on-one debate format. few details on the format. the president and romney will be at podiums, standing, not sitting, and there will be no basic time limits on their answers. it's not 90 seconds, buzzer, things like that. it's up to the discretion of the moderator, jim leierer....
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first that awkward moment in the third and final debate between george w. bush and al gore. let's watch this moment. >> it's not only what your philosophy and what's your position on issues. but can you get things done. and i believe i can. >> well, in 1992 in a debate conducted in a town hall format, president george bush, senior bush, was seen checking his watch, that showed impatience with the whole debate, fair or not. in 2008 john mccain betrayed his frustration when he referred to barack obama as "that one." let's listen. >> your bill on the floor of the senate, loaded down with goodies, billions for the oil companies and it was sponsored by busch and cheney. you know who voted for it? might never know. that one. you know who voted against it? me. >> where did you come up with that phrase, that one? what will be the clues tonight to tell us in real time who's winning. ste steve kornacki, co-host of "the cycle." you start with your biggest clue. you've said already, i've seen on my screen, who's winning the definition, meaning who's defining the debate in their terms. h
first that awkward moment in the third and final debate between george w. bush and al gore. let's watch this moment. >> it's not only what your philosophy and what's your position on issues. but can you get things done. and i believe i can. >> well, in 1992 in a debate conducted in a town hall format, president george bush, senior bush, was seen checking his watch, that showed impatience with the whole debate, fair or not. in 2008 john mccain betrayed his frustration when he...
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. >> george w. bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t-- antic. >> i think probably benjamin netanyahu's standing with important leaders is pretty well fixed, i don't think it moves it one way or another. he is a hard liner. he doesn't like this administration plainly. they have some real differences. he is quite close to mitt romney. he knew him before -- >> how about the fact, i was going to say, how about the fact today he will speak by phone to both. a world leader doing that -- >> that's a danger for him, i have known him a long time. he is always moving forward. the danger is that he can involve himself too demonstrabl
. >> george w. bush. >> from the right or george w. bush, or if mitt romney made a speech and held up that kind of a bomb and drew the line. it boggles the mind. these are serious issues. they are complex. the country and the world deserves to know exactly where we are in the process and where we're going to get to. >> i know that particularly netanyahu always savvy about the american media. this was clearly designed so that more of us would cover this. it was an and t--...
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in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to do is to get people who don't think obama has earned a second mandate, he's got to get them to think he deserved to replace him. there is room to make that case. i don't think he's made that case so far, but we're talking about tinkering around the margins. i think both sides are going to -- democrats are going to vote democrat, republicans will vote republican. >> and john mccain who knows more than a little bit about what it's like to be in a presidential debate had this take on "morning joe" today. >> i think for us to raise the expectation, he's
in 2004 george w. bush went up against al gore. in gore's case, a strategist thought he lost that debate in the spin room. so i wonder, matt, how much of this is decided by what the candidates actually say? and how much by the pundits the day after? >> i give the american people some credit. i think they can listen and watch. and most evidence has shown that people start paying attention maybe around the conventions. they pay a lot of attention in the debates as well. what romney has to...
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george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but not a game changer, but you did write a piece -- we have candy crowley, who has the duties for one of these debates. you say don't forget, you will be treated differently because you are a woman. how is it different for women or minority moderators, when it comes to those tough questions on a woman's right to choose. is there an extra cautious line women need to take in asking that? >> she's not going to have the chance. that's what i'm upset about. candy is going to have the same format that i had, which is the town hall format. that's questions from th
george bush blew that question you showed a part of. that was the good part of his answer, but when he first heard the question, he was like, i don't get it and people remember that he said i don't get it. and that was about the economy. and that's what people were feeling and hurting. >> when we talk about the fact you were the last female journalist to have access to a presidential debate like this and would you remind everybody that gwen eiffel moderated the '04 debate, an honor, but...
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it was not in a debate with george bush is your hint here. it was in a debate during the same time but -- >> al gore. >> yes. >> that's right. applause. it was al gore in 1982. vice presidential debate he was mocking then president george h.w. bush. next one comes from the same debate. listen to parker on had one. >> who am i? why am i here? >> it's the vice presidential debate and i'm just blanking on the name of the general. >> sockwell -- >> stockdale. >> you guys are like working together collectively here to get these. that's right. so we've got another one here that this is one of my favorites. let's watch this one. >> say it ain't so, joe. >> you know who that is. >> sarah palin. >> sarah palin versus joe biden, very good. >> i was bringing up another one. that was lipstick on a pig. >> do you know why she came out and asked him is it okay if i call you joe? do you know the reason? >> i'll let you answer ha. >> she kept messing up his name and calling him joe o'biden. >> here's our last one. this one is different because it's purely vi
it was not in a debate with george bush is your hint here. it was in a debate during the same time but -- >> al gore. >> yes. >> that's right. applause. it was al gore in 1982. vice presidential debate he was mocking then president george h.w. bush. next one comes from the same debate. listen to parker on had one. >> who am i? why am i here? >> it's the vice presidential debate and i'm just blanking on the name of the general. >> sockwell -- >>...
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al gore was criticized for sighing and rolling his eyes while debating george bush in 2000. and then capped it off with this moment. >> it is not what your philosophy and position on issues but can you get things done. and i believe i can. >> that's funny. i'm sorry. you hear this next one repeated many times. it came from ronald reagan during his debate with jimmy carter. reagan posed a simple question. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> four years later president reagan was 73 facing concerns about his age, an issue compounded by his shaky first debate and then turned the weakness into a strength with this line. >> i want you to know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> bill clinton was on the other side of that equation while debating another 73 year old. this one was former senator bob dole. clinton handled the issue this way. >> i don't think senator bill is too old to be president. it's the age of his ideas that i question. >> so we'll have
al gore was criticized for sighing and rolling his eyes while debating george bush in 2000. and then capped it off with this moment. >> it is not what your philosophy and position on issues but can you get things done. and i believe i can. >> that's funny. i'm sorry. you hear this next one repeated many times. it came from ronald reagan during his debate with jimmy carter. reagan posed a simple question. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? >> four years...
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what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and you can use your charitable deduction or your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction, and you can full that $17,000 bucket and higher income people might have a lower number. or you could do it by the same method that boll/simpson did by limiting deductions. >> it's bucket and spades and he'll work it out with congress. is that a plausible resp
what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael,...
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bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period. meaning let's not go back to the bush era. i think that's very relevant question. interesting to hear what romney has to say. howard, my question would be for the president. i think it's fair to say he has not been pressed on this particular issue much at all during the past year if at all during his first term. i would say, mr. president to what do you attribute the record rise in poverty and the ex-spams of income inequality und youer your administration? >> a great question and if i decided to start with the president, that's the question i would have used, just that one. i mentioned his most recent stump speech, se, he mentioned the word "poor" once in passion a record number of poor people in the united states, 46 million. accusing mir of being cold and heartless and not caring about the 47%. i have heard next to nothing.from the president who speaks endlessly about the middle class about the plight of the for a poor and an excellent que
bush. >> a good question and wisdom that george bush is irrelevant to this debate is wrong. the president's slogan is forward. period. meaning let's not go back to the bush era. i think that's very relevant question. interesting to hear what romney has to say. howard, my question would be for the president. i think it's fair to say he has not been pressed on this particular issue much at all during the past year if at all during his first term. i would say, mr. president to what do you...
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bush sr. he was a better commuter. bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry was a strong debater. i don't see incumbent see aas a factor in these. >> that's fair. there's a multitude of factors that go into success in debates. the challenger in the first debate seems to perform better. one is the person the word has known for three and a half years as the president, and the other is a person they're geg to know. now this makes them equal. that's enormous and the psychological effect is hard to understatement. >> when i was running for congress, as the challenger it was hard to get the incumbent to debate me at all. that's the case for a lot of challenger candidates. "snl" had an amazing take on a potential trouble spot for the president in the debates. let's take a look. >> surely someone has a job that wasn't around in 2008. anyone? there he is. what do you do, sir? >> i chase raccoons out of foreclosed homes. it's great because all those homes have people in them a few years ago. >> good for you.
bush sr. he was a better commuter. bush 2004 against john kerry. kerry was a strong debater. i don't see incumbent see aas a factor in these. >> that's fair. there's a multitude of factors that go into success in debates. the challenger in the first debate seems to perform better. one is the person the word has known for three and a half years as the president, and the other is a person they're geg to know. now this makes them equal. that's enormous and the psychological effect is hard to...
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back in 2000, the establishment group believed that al gore beat george bush in that debate. go back and watch that and you will laugh and the genuine article. it's not exactly fair the debate itself. richard nixon had to stand on the same stage with jack kennedy. reagan never said what he would do to spring the hostages. that was tough enough, wouldn't you say? against pesky ross perot as well. john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him. but by the time we get here on thursday this week, it's going to matter and no one knows how. it's one of the reasons that i've been caught up in politics since i can remember because you really don't know how the battle's going to go. that's "hardball" for no
back in 2000, the establishment group believed that al gore beat george bush in that debate. go back and watch that and you will laugh and the genuine article. it's not exactly fair the debate itself. richard nixon had to stand on the same stage with jack kennedy. reagan never said what he would do to spring the hostages. that was tough enough, wouldn't you say? against pesky ross perot as well. john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him. but by the time we get here on thursday...
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i remember when george bush ii ran. kerry was excellent, but there was a core in bush, despite the fact he was losing the debates, that sort of connected with people. so even though we felt, i was there the first kerry/bush debate, we felt that he was slaughtered by kerry. but you didn't leave there disliking him. the problem with romney is, his likability. and if he walks out tonight, not only losing, but still not likable, it's over with. >> i just want to talk about what steve said. i think we know who president obama is. and i think there were some real impactful moments in the last time president obama was in this position. in one of the debates, foreign policy was huge. and there was a big narrative out there that president obama, you know, he couldn't take the 3:00 a.m. phone call, wasn't prepared, didn't have executive experience, wasn't ready to do foreign policy. president obama stood up in that debate, and i think it's one for the highlight reel. he said, if we have intelligence that osama bin laden is, you k
i remember when george bush ii ran. kerry was excellent, but there was a core in bush, despite the fact he was losing the debates, that sort of connected with people. so even though we felt, i was there the first kerry/bush debate, we felt that he was slaughtered by kerry. but you didn't leave there disliking him. the problem with romney is, his likability. and if he walks out tonight, not only losing, but still not likable, it's over with. >> i just want to talk about what steve said. i...
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even george w. bush was good at that in 2004 and 2000. the question is whether mitt romney can connect with the american people. most know he can do the job. the question is that likability factor and whether or not you quote-unquote want to have a beer with him. >> mitt romney showed a tough side with rick perry last year. >> i'm looking forward to finding your facts on that. >> the facts are -- >> rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> i'm wondering, do you think the obama campaign will have something up its sleeves it to get under romney's skin? do those moments make people uncomfortable, or do they say, well, you know what? he's got a little feistiness in him? >> i think that the president should really consider this an opportunity to talk with the american people about how, you know, his vision of leadership. talk directly about his policies. you know, his strategies to move the country forward. i don't think he should get -- my own advice is he shouldn't get into getting under romney's skin or having a back and forth, et cetera. this
even george w. bush was good at that in 2004 and 2000. the question is whether mitt romney can connect with the american people. most know he can do the job. the question is that likability factor and whether or not you quote-unquote want to have a beer with him. >> mitt romney showed a tough side with rick perry last year. >> i'm looking forward to finding your facts on that. >> the facts are -- >> rick, i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> i'm wondering, do you think...
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back in 2000, the establishment group believed that al gore beat george bush in that debate. go back and watch that and you will laugh and the genuine article. it's not exactly fair the debate itself. richard nixon had to stand on the same stage with jack kennedy. reagan never said what he would do to spring the hostages. that was tough enough, wouldn't you say? against pesky ross perot as well. john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him. but by the time we get here on
back in 2000, the establishment group believed that al gore beat george bush in that debate. go back and watch that and you will laugh and the genuine article. it's not exactly fair the debate itself. richard nixon had to stand on the same stage with jack kennedy. reagan never said what he would do to spring the hostages. that was tough enough, wouldn't you say? against pesky ross perot as well. john mccain had to defend an economy falling all around him. but by the time we get here on
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. >> in the '04 election, republican president george w. bush won the crucial state of ohio with 50.8% of the vote. and he won a second term in office. in certain parts of ohio, for certain groups of people who tend to lean democratic, voting in that election that year meant waiting if lines for ten hours or more. for voters in mostly african-american precincts voting was like an endurance event. in precincts used by college students, voting was an all day and into the night affair. the polls simply were not set up to accommodate everyone who wanted to vote. particularly democratic leaning constituencies. this time around, the national race, again, may all but depend on ohio and the same key democratic constituencies are again finding that trying to vote is a challenge. and i use the word challenge on purpose. as we reported earlier this month, the tea party group in ohio called the voter integrity project claims to have found 730,000 suspect names that it wants purged off the voter rolls in ohio. 730,000. we've now started to get a better
. >> in the '04 election, republican president george w. bush won the crucial state of ohio with 50.8% of the vote. and he won a second term in office. in certain parts of ohio, for certain groups of people who tend to lean democratic, voting in that election that year meant waiting if lines for ten hours or more. for voters in mostly african-american precincts voting was like an endurance event. in precincts used by college students, voting was an all day and into the night affair. the...
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bush and he had said that the middle east going up in flames was a, quote, bump in the road, george w. bush would have been absolutely skewered by the press. >> at the same time, is it fair to say that the romney campaign and mitt romney himself have seized upon things too quickly and almost looked a little almost like a dog pulling on someone's leg? >> they've been hand-fisted. >> let me ask you this. >> they made a mistake. in fact, even internally inside the romney campaign, they know now that the libyan press conference, the day after, they will all tell you, was an absolute mistake, and that showed up in the polls. >> here's my question, then. because congressman peter king is calling on susan rice to step down, to resign as u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and yesterday, here's the response as they try and move forward and turn the majpage. congressman paul ryan and paul mccain. take a look at this approach. >> the response was slow. it was confused. it was inconsistent. they first said that it was a youtube video and a spontaneous mob. we now know that it was a planned terrorist att
bush and he had said that the middle east going up in flames was a, quote, bump in the road, george w. bush would have been absolutely skewered by the press. >> at the same time, is it fair to say that the romney campaign and mitt romney himself have seized upon things too quickly and almost looked a little almost like a dog pulling on someone's leg? >> they've been hand-fisted. >> let me ask you this. >> they made a mistake. in fact, even internally inside the romney...
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i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that governor romney is a hugely competitive guy. but arguably the only person around more competitive is barack obama. and so there's, you know, this is 30 days out. i would think this would be a much bigger deal in terms of the tactical horse race if this were like 1980. if this debate had been on october 28th, i think this would be a much more -- have much more possibility of being truly transformative. i think it's hugely important, but, again, mark twain is dead. >> all right. thank you for that. let's go to "the wall street journal." "
i remember president bush, george w. bush, was quoted -- used to be quoted as saying, you know, people will be out in the oval office waiting room and they'll say i'm going to go in and tell the president, great texas phrase, what all, and they get in and they say oh, what a lovely tie, mr. president. and i think that's a big part of this. and i think that that's one of the reasons what happened in '04. i think it's probably what happened last night. and one thing we do know, we know that...
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george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did you become a fan last night as a conservative who has doubted his credibility from the minute he entered this race? >> well, i think my credentials as a non-romney show are pretty well secured. i have good street cred for your audience. frankly, i thought mitt romney did the best job of advancing even a modicom of viewpoints and stepping up on a national stage than like when al gore invented the internet. mitt romney, unlike john mccain, mitt romney wants to win the presidency, and a lot of conservatives have asked themselves that question the
george w. bush, ronald reagan in '84, george h.w. bush in '92, the president didn't seem to be on his game. mitt romney made a surprise appearance to a cpac event in denver still courting the conservatives but say if you know people that voted for president obama, tell them to come on over to our side. that's ironic because i don't imagine he knows many conservative republicans who voted for president obama the last time or plan to this time. nevertheless, you're no fan of governor romney. did...
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bush to barack obama." the co-author of the end game michael gordon joins me now. congratulations. this is an epic piece of work. u.n. and general trainer have been digging through it from both sides on the ground in iraq and here in washington and elsewhere. but, let's talk about what you think is the real reason for this rise in both sectarian attacks and attacks against security forces. is this iranian influence? >> i think it's more complicated than that. i think that, you know, the worst has not happened in iraq. we don't have a civil war. the country hasn't collapsed for the doom sayers who thought the place was going to go up in flames, that hasn't occurred. >> john mccain and others even today on "morning joe" was saying it's all blowing apart. >> well it's not all blowing apart. but what we -- but there are a lot of reasons for concern. without an american military footprint on the ground, even a small one of a few thousand troops, the iraqi commandos would become less capable of fighting al qaeda
bush to barack obama." the co-author of the end game michael gordon joins me now. congratulations. this is an epic piece of work. u.n. and general trainer have been digging through it from both sides on the ground in iraq and here in washington and elsewhere. but, let's talk about what you think is the real reason for this rise in both sectarian attacks and attacks against security forces. is this iranian influence? >> i think it's more complicated than that. i think that, you know,...
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bush. he picked up about four points nationally after the first debate. it's not unconceivable mitt romney could do that. the key with debates does president obama perform poorly or mitt romney well. the key with all debates what's the moment. is there a big moment that crashes through and changes people's perceptions about the dynamic in a big way. governor romney will not only have to perform well in general because president obama's likely to perform well in general but he has to have a moment like that or two moments like that in the first debate that will make people see him with new eyes. that's a very -- never done that before but he could do it. john kerry you would have said had no chance but did it eight years ago. >> the other thing is you're running into this early voting thing as well, which it's not actually 40 some odd days until the election, probably a narrower window, looking at colorado 80% of the people that voted in colorado in in the 2008 election cycle voted early. part of the problem for mitt romney is the ground game issue. the re
bush. he picked up about four points nationally after the first debate. it's not unconceivable mitt romney could do that. the key with debates does president obama perform poorly or mitt romney well. the key with all debates what's the moment. is there a big moment that crashes through and changes people's perceptions about the dynamic in a big way. governor romney will not only have to perform well in general because president obama's likely to perform well in general but he has to have a...
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pennsylvania hasn't voted republican since george h.w. bush. polls show him trailing president obama by as much as 11 points. the latest poll puts the score at 54 to 43. is pennsylvania in play? let's bring in former pennsylvania governor ed rendell who knows pennsylvania like no other. welcome. >> hi, alex. >> we want to talk about the fund-raiser. it's been on the governor's schedule for a while. he's not been in your state campaigning since mid-summer, so why now? >> i don't think they intended to have this rally, but i think the pennsylvania state republican party pressured them into having a rally. they're not playing in pennsylvania right now, and unless the polls improve significantly, i don't think they'll play much at this point. president obama's been very, very popular in the southeast, in the philadelphia suburbs and the city itself. it's a real tough hurdle to overcome. but interestingly, ohio, pennsylvania, florida, none of them according to the time's poll looked promising and no candidate can win without winning at least one of
pennsylvania hasn't voted republican since george h.w. bush. polls show him trailing president obama by as much as 11 points. the latest poll puts the score at 54 to 43. is pennsylvania in play? let's bring in former pennsylvania governor ed rendell who knows pennsylvania like no other. welcome. >> hi, alex. >> we want to talk about the fund-raiser. it's been on the governor's schedule for a while. he's not been in your state campaigning since mid-summer, so why now? >> i...
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president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of t
president george w. bush. >> if the republicans want to defend the bush administration's response to katrina i'm sure the president would give them his time during the debate. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of...
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you could have said the same thing about george w. bush. those people in the ranch houses voted for george bush. >> or jeb. >> or jeb bush. they voted for ronald reagan. they voted for conservatives that they thought could relate to them. you look at the ranch houses now. they may not like barack obama, but are they going to go out and vote for mitt romney? i think -- mika, i think -- you know -- and you were looking at them. yeah, it's the relatability. >> you can't tell anymore who they would vote for, and it used to be pretty clear. i want to show you this sound bite. mitt romney is spending, of course, his third straight day in ohio. president obama is reporting there later this morning. the new york times says they'll be campaigning more often in the coming weeks. the move underscores the fact that mr. romney is not generating enough excitement on his own and ryan is needed to fire up more supporters. >> wow. that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan. isn't that something? wait a second. romney/ryan, romney/ryan, romney/ryan. there we go
you could have said the same thing about george w. bush. those people in the ranch houses voted for george bush. >> or jeb. >> or jeb bush. they voted for ronald reagan. they voted for conservatives that they thought could relate to them. you look at the ranch houses now. they may not like barack obama, but are they going to go out and vote for mitt romney? i think -- mika, i think -- you know -- and you were looking at them. yeah, it's the relatability. >> you can't tell...
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the landscape has shifted big time since george w. bush won the state by nine points in 2000 and by five in 2004. john kerry pulled plans for tv ads a month before the election when it was clear the state was out of reach. colorado picked democrats for president. just twice since 1950. and bill clinton in 1992 when perot took a slew of votes. until john mccain lost by nine points in 2008. michael bennet had the year's most expensive senate race. democrats now hold the governship. driven by a few things. an influx of highly educated west coast transplants. the state is younger and more diverse. more hispanic. the population is up by 20% since 2000 to more than 5 million. latinos now account for 21% of the population. president obama's strategy is repeating what he did in 2008. his margin of victory was 142,000 votes. 46,000 more votes than kerry got in 2004. they'll also vote on swing accounts that use to be republican. obama put on six counties that bush carried in 2004. including jefferson county. arapahoe. as jefferson county goes,
the landscape has shifted big time since george w. bush won the state by nine points in 2000 and by five in 2004. john kerry pulled plans for tv ads a month before the election when it was clear the state was out of reach. colorado picked democrats for president. just twice since 1950. and bill clinton in 1992 when perot took a slew of votes. until john mccain lost by nine points in 2008. michael bennet had the year's most expensive senate race. democrats now hold the governship. driven by a...
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his opponent, former george w. bush surgeon general, richard carmona, is taking the opposite approach. >> it's reprehensible to think that the contract that we have with our seniors through medicare or social security is going to be cut. that doesn't make any sense. these are not entitlements. these are, in fact, investments. so i think that's the wrong thing to do. >> meanwhile, flake is trying to tie carmona to president obama. >> richard carmona was recruited by barack obama. jeff flake is supported by jon kyl and john mccain. carmona is for obama's health care law. flake's against obama's health care law. >> joining me now is dr. richard carmona, democratic candidate for senate in arizona and the former surgeon general of the united states. doctor, nice to meet you. great to have you here on "the ed show" tonight. i'll go right to it. health care is in your wheelhouse. you are the expert. he's going after you, your opponent's going after you on obama care. but you have been critical of health care in general on
his opponent, former george w. bush surgeon general, richard carmona, is taking the opposite approach. >> it's reprehensible to think that the contract that we have with our seniors through medicare or social security is going to be cut. that doesn't make any sense. these are not entitlements. these are, in fact, investments. so i think that's the wrong thing to do. >> meanwhile, flake is trying to tie carmona to president obama. >> richard carmona was recruited by barack...
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bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to an empty room. the romney campaign has no identifiable position on afghanistan. they have been unwilling and unable to hold up that side of debate and so regardless of what it means for the candidates as a country we are deprived of a national discussion about a war we are in. 70,000 american families having skin in the game right now. we have -- that's part of the reason i'm looking forward to the debates. some ways sort of a post-policy campaign. and you can't do that in a debate, at least unless the debate is really bad. >> this is -- this is billed
bush and john kerry fought it out every day about the war. in 2008 we were at war, and barack obama and john mccain fought it out every day in that war. this week when the financial crisis was absolutely on fire, at that debate, they were talking about the wars. this year, president obama does bring it up, he does bring it up at most of his stump speeches, how he explains what he has done and planning on doing talking about the two wars. he doesn't have to say much more because he's speaking to...
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he needs to go out there and fundamentally do what dick cheney did for george works bush which was to arrest the over coming that they had with kerry victory in the first debate so i think the debate next week will be incredible, great moment and good entertainment. >> the vice-presidential debate will always be fun. it will be incredibly high stakes now because of this. >> i want to thank you all. we're going to be back here one week from tomorrow for that vice-presidential debate between joe biden and paul ryan. higher stakes than ever. right now, chris matthews continues our debate coverage from denver. >> i got five business. i'm used to people saying something that's not always true but keep on repeating it and ultimately hoping i'll believe it. >> welcome back to our special edition of ""hardball."" and we're beginning on the east coast at midnight, our continuing live coverage of the first presidential debate between barack obama and governor mitt romney. both candidates mp promised an evening of sharp contrast but the president focused on the middle class. >> ultimately it wil
he needs to go out there and fundamentally do what dick cheney did for george works bush which was to arrest the over coming that they had with kerry victory in the first debate so i think the debate next week will be incredible, great moment and good entertainment. >> the vice-presidential debate will always be fun. it will be incredibly high stakes now because of this. >> i want to thank you all. we're going to be back here one week from tomorrow for that vice-presidential debate...
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>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades. so absolutely, we're not blaming, you know, our predecessor, by any means. but we don't think we should return to the same policies that crashed the economy. >> exactly. stephanie cutter, by the way, good job competing with chuck todd sitting next to you. >> say hi to chuck todd yelling right next to me. >> i know, he's right next to me. >> good luck there. >> we appreciate it. so mark mckinnon, they do have a problem, actually, the buried remarks over the past four years, that's -- i mean, you heard stephanie saying, well, actually, we've created all these new jobs. that seems to go agains
>> uh-huh. >> you can't blame the last four years on george w. bush, can you? >> we're absolutely not doing that. in fact, we're taking credit for the 5.1 million private sector jobs that have been created over the past four years despite being handed the worst economy since the great depression. we're taking credit for the million jobs that were protected under the president's efforts to save the auto industry, or increasing manufacturing jobs for the first time in decades....
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bush, now a top adviser to the romney campaign. governor, i know you're not going to be shy, so how do you think he did? are you pleased by the performance he's gotten rave reviews universally. >> what people saw last nigh, i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is, how he has absolutely no idea how serious the economic problems of the country are, and how he has failed to even begin to address them. and i think even the liberal press reacted with shock at this revelation, and i find it fascinating now this morning, after they've slept, to watch them all scrambling around to clean up the mess the president left on the floor last night. on the other hand, mitt romney came in with a lot of specifics, a lot of very sharp knowledge of issues not only with the obama version of bumper sticker numbers, but the governor showed that he understands policy and he understands how to make policy into law, talking about what he did in massachusetts. >> governor, i want to give you a chance to maybe take
bush, now a top adviser to the romney campaign. governor, i know you're not going to be shy, so how do you think he did? are you pleased by the performance he's gotten rave reviews universally. >> what people saw last nigh, i think, was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is, how he has absolutely no idea how serious the economic problems of the country are, and how he has failed to even begin to address them. and i think even the liberal press reacted...
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bush's time. and most people think back to the clinton era as being a better period of time as the bush era. so barack obama's winning that debate by proxy because he's associated himself with the policies of bill clinton and with the person of bill clinton. >> i think we've got to start thinking for real about the probability of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in france. >> he could run in france because he was born in louisiana. >> that's a true statement. >> ireland's a better fit for him, though, i think. >> although they love him in france. he's a lover. >> we'll move past that. joe, you're just joining us. i want to play a clip for you that we played last hour. mitt romney talking to nbc news yesterday. and now bringing up the massachusetts health care law he championed and helped pass as support for his campaign. >> throughout this campaign as well, we've talked about my reco
bush's time. and most people think back to the clinton era as being a better period of time as the bush era. so barack obama's winning that debate by proxy because he's associated himself with the policies of bill clinton and with the person of bill clinton. >> i think we've got to start thinking for real about the probability of a clinton monument on the mall. i mean, you know, who would have thunk it? >> didn't he just say that he could run in ireland, and he could also run in...
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bush. take a listen to this interview he gave to nbc's ron allen yesterday. >> throughout this campaign, as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there's anything that shows more i'm pat think and care about the people of this country than that kind of record. >> as chuck todd point i'd out this morning the question really wasn't specifically about health care, it was about compassion and empathy and he interjected his record for massachusetts and health care and what they were able to accomplish there. can mitt romney turn his health care plan into an advantage now especially since they've been trying to distance themselves from that all along? >> well, i think there's some irony in the fact that mitt romney briefly mentions his role in passing health care reform in massachusetts when the first thing he pledged to do if he were to become president of the unit
bush. take a listen to this interview he gave to nbc's ron allen yesterday. >> throughout this campaign, as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i got everybody in my state insured. 100% of the kids in our state have health insurance. i don't think there's anything that shows more i'm pat think and care about the people of this country than that kind of record. >> as chuck todd point i'd out this morning the question really wasn't specifically about...
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this was true with george sr., george jr., and bush. do you think there's a problem with being an incumbent. >> yes, you're not challenged all the time for sure. i know president obama believes he's done many good things for the country. show some passion, defend yourself. >> i agree. >> he didn't do that. he let governor romney just go through this litany. don't you agree, ron? >> hold on. thank you. go ahead, ron. >> yeah. the analogy to a prevent defense is exactly the one. you know, in politics if you're not winning, you're losing. you've got to stay on offense, you've got to keep pushing all the way through and he just didn't do that. >> we got a pretty good reading by you guys. thank you ed and ron reagan. coming up the day after romney said a lot of things last night that sounded good but -- inaccurate. i hate the word lie. if the president's team can make that case, they can win the aftermath even if mr. romney lost the performance battle last night. >>> plus, what's wrong with this picture? the president looking down at his not
this was true with george sr., george jr., and bush. do you think there's a problem with being an incumbent. >> yes, you're not challenged all the time for sure. i know president obama believes he's done many good things for the country. show some passion, defend yourself. >> i agree. >> he didn't do that. he let governor romney just go through this litany. don't you agree, ron? >> hold on. thank you. go ahead, ron. >> yeah. the analogy to a prevent defense is...